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Old 11-19-2014, 10:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I'm about to pull the trigger on V&H Twin Slash and (probably) the Cobra Powerflow Air Intake. ... now I need to make this last decision:

Do I go with a Fuel Monitor? I found one by Cobra for $180!
or... Do I get Ivan's ECU flash instead of getting a fuel monitor or power commander??

I know a lot of you are big fans of Ivan's ECU flash. But are there ANY downsides to getting an ECU flash?
- Warranty voided?
- MPG loss?
- Backfiring?
- Performance issues?
- anything at all???

ECU flash sounds good. But it's more than double the price of this Cobra fuel monitor. Is it really worth it? I am a pretty conservative rider and mostly stick to the southern california area.

Thanks!!!
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Here you will find answers https://www.yamahastarstryker.com/showthread.php?t=34170
Here you get answers straight from Ivan. If you call him he will answer any questions you have and that way you get it directly from "the horses mouth"
http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/stryker.htm
As far as negatives from the flash none only positives. With the tuner you will see MPG loss. The tuner will add fuel not take away.
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Here you will find answers https://www.yamahastarstryker.com/showthread.php?t=34170
Here you get answers straight from Ivan. If you call him he will answer any questions you have and that way you get it directly from "the horses mouth"
http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/stryker.htm
As far as negatives from the flash none only positives. With the tuner you will see MPG loss. The tuner will add fuel not take away.
I spoke with him a few days ago and he was very nice. I just wanted to ask you all about any objective downsides to getting ECU flash.

And you're saying the Fuel Monitor or Power Commander will result in less MPG's?
And the ECU flash will ADD MPG's?

I thought maybe you made a typo. Otherwise: what do you mean by "tuner will add fuel not take away"?
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I spoke with him a few days ago and he was very nice. I just wanted to ask you all about any objective downsides to getting ECU flash.

And you're saying the Fuel Monitor or Power Commander will result in less MPG's?
And the ECU flash will ADD MPG's?

I thought maybe you made a typo. Otherwise: what do you mean by "tuner will add fuel not take away"?
The tuner will add fuel which lowers your MPG's but give you more power. Our bikes thanks to EPA run lean. When you add exhaust and intake you need the tuner to add more fuel to keep the air to fuel mixture correct.
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The tuner will add fuel which lowers your MPG's but give you more power. Our bikes thanks to EPA run lean. When you add exhaust and intake you need the tuner to add more fuel to keep the air to fuel mixture correct.
Well that's a bummer considering I'm only averaging 33 mpg's as it is.

So on the bottom of Ivan's Stryker page, it says this:
"Best results are with a fuel tuner, and is recommended with aftermarket intake and exhaust changes
This is for proper and consistent fuel delivery with the changes that you have made to your bike."

So isn't this saying that, even with his ECU flash, I would still need either a fuel monitor or a power commander to run after market pipes and intake?

His flash sounds great. But, for the money, I might want to stick with the essentials for the pipes and intake mod
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Well that's a bummer considering I'm only averaging 33 mpg's as it is.

So on the bottom of Ivan's Stryker page, it says this:
"Best results are with a fuel tuner, and is recommended with aftermarket intake and exhaust changes
This is for proper and consistent fuel delivery with the changes that you have made to your bike."

So isn't this saying that, even with his ECU flash, I would still need either a fuel monitor or a power commander to run after market pipes and intake?

His flash sounds great. But, for the money, I might want to stick with the essentials for the pipes and intake mod
If you want pipes and an intake, you need a tuner minimum or you will run lean and damage the bike. It is that simple and lots of comments on here to that effect.

If you want to stay stock and enjoy the bike more, you should go with the flash only IMO.

If you want the whole package, take all 4.

It is a simple matter of what you can afford and your priorities.

If you have questions about the flash and how it works with other items, mpg, power, etc. you are best to talk to the guy how does the work. Call Ivan.
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Well that's a bummer considering I'm only averaging 33 mpg's as it is.

So on the bottom of Ivan's Stryker page, it says this:
"Best results are with a fuel tuner, and is recommended with aftermarket intake and exhaust changes
This is for proper and consistent fuel delivery with the changes that you have made to your bike."

So isn't this saying that, even with his ECU flash, I would still need either a fuel monitor or a power commander to run after market pipes and intake?

His flash sounds great. But, for the money, I might want to stick with the essentials for the pipes and intake mod
Yes you still need a fuel monitor for best results. If you read through his thread he also said you could only use the flash with no tuner.He recommended the PCV because it has more options and he can email u the map for it if you buy it somewhere else. He can also sell u exhaust and intake. I do not know his pricing tho on those items
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Hi gang,

So I'm about to pull the trigger on V&H Twin Slash and (probably) the Cobra Powerflow Air Intake. ... now I need to make this last decision:

Do I go with a Fuel Monitor? I found one by Cobra for $180!
or... Do I get Ivan's ECU flash instead of getting a fuel monitor or power commander??

I know a lot of you are big fans of Ivan's ECU flash. But are there ANY downsides to getting an ECU flash?
- Warranty voided?
- MPG loss?
- Backfiring?
- Performance issues?
- anything at all???

ECU flash sounds good. But it's more than double the price of this Cobra fuel monitor. Is it really worth it? I am a pretty conservative rider and mostly stick to the southern california area.

Thanks!!!
One thing. Which cobra tuner is it? Some have had issues with cobra tuner (not sure which one) and the V&H exhaust
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One thing. Which cobra tuner is it? Some have had issues with cobra tuner (not sure which one) and the V&H exhaust
I was going to get the V&H Twin Slash Staggered and the Cobra Powerflow (as seen below). Is that a good combination?

I might be confused about what a "tuner" is? I thought the Cobra Powerflow was an Air In-take/cleaner. And then the third piece to the puzzle would be a Power Commander (like the PCV) or some type of Fuel Monitor (or tuner?) like the Cobra Fi2000 (which I found for $180!)



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I run the ejk tuner and am more than happy. 225$ w forum discount
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