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My first post. Love the forum. I have been looking forward to buying a Stryker for months now. But I came across a Raider at a great price. But after plenty of research, I am actually very lost as to how or why a Raider is a better bike than the Stryker. It seems like the bigger engine only makes the bike an unoticeable bit faster than the Stryker; based on the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times I have found. Clearly it has more torque and HP but why are the numbers almost identical. I ask because on paper the bigger engine doesn't seem to equal better performance.

I am interested to know what I am obviously missing. My intentions are to ride with a passenger at times and on long trips. I like the looks of both bikes equally. So performance and comfort are the deciding factor here. But I am not seeing a difference in performance or comfort that justifies the extra cash. Any input would be appreciated.
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I appreciate the reply but it really doesn't help. I can see that it has more torque and horse power. What I can't figure out is how all that extra power doesn't translate to a better 0-60 and quarter mile time. I'm certainly not going to race it. Nor do I care about quarter miles. I just don't understand the performance numbers when compared to the specs. Where is the bigger engine helping in the performance department?

The numbers I found are:

Stryker 0-60: 4.3 sec
Raider 0-60: 4.01
Stryker 1/4mile: 13.24
Raider 1/4mile: 12.27

I have found several different numbers but the difference is the same. .29 and less than 1 second respectively. So how do those performances translate to siginificant power when riding two up or on long highway trips? I know I HAVE to be missing something. And I have never owned a Cruiser. So I'm sorry if I'm an idiot here. But I know I'm getting one of these bikes. I just need to justify the extra cash.
Yes actually that was extremely helpful. Looks like I'll stick with my first choice and spend the money saved on extra stuff for the Stryker. I apperciate the input. Looks like I'll be on this forum instead of Roadstar Raider lol.

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Both good input. So now I'm back at the Raider. Back and forth...

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I can ride the Stryker but the dealership that has the Raider doesn't seem to be having any of that. And I'm not anywhere close to any other dealers that carry a Raider. But I'm 6'1" and my wife loves to be a passenger. So based on info here it looks like the Raider is a good choice. I also feet if I get the Stryker in a year I'll want the Raider anyway. As nd the wifey will veto any bikes after this for sure.

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It's not going to be the biggest part of my riding, the two up and long distance. I am buying one of these two bikes for the looks. And I'm willing to pay the extra cash for the raider if it is significantly better for two up and long distance. I certainly understand there are quite a large number of bikes better for these two tasks. I am choosing these bikes for the other qualities they bring. It was just hard for me to figure out why the Raider was more money and what the engine brought to the game. I'm gathering based on answers that the Raider has a great low end and higher quality parts. The low end is obviously better for two up riding and the extra weight of the bike would seem it would make it more steady on the highway. I like both bikes. But if these things are true seems like the Raider is the best choice for me.

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Oh and I should have clarified that the long distance and two up riding will occur seperately.

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There are obviously benefits to liquid cooled but are there any benefits to air cooled at all?

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For me, it was the lack of a liquid cooling system that turned me away from the raider. Well, that and the higher insurance for the larger engine. I did not feel the Raider was worth the extra coin for what I would get out of it. Just what worked for me and what variables were more important to ME.

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I guess that takes me back to my original question; Is the Raider worth the extra money for what you'll get out of it? So maybe I can ask it in a way that anyone here can answer, because this is my concern:
Has any of you Stryker owners been on a long drive or two up and felt like "I wish I had spent the extra money on the Raider." Not any other bike. Because it will be one if these two. Or does it simply never occur to you as you are happy, in those situations, with what the Stryker gives you? And thanks again for all the replies.

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6 hrs of 2up riding straight, only thing i longed for was a better seat. No complaints on power, vibration or ease of ride
That is extremely helpful info. I know some people are happy with their seats...but I knew going in a seat would be on my list. Thanks

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I think the answer to the question of value is the Stryker is the best bang for your buck.
The answer to the question in size is, two sizable people say 220+ lbs each, the Stryker would start to get cramped for long rides. But power and load handling is still there.
I think hands down I figured out the Stryker is easily the best bang for anyone's buck. I never glanced at a Raider until a used one popped up for under 11k with only a few thousand miles on it. Then my mind got all screwed up. It's almost bike getting time. And I've been looking forward to the Stryker for months. But the price on that Raider got me asking questions.

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Maybe I should have said that sooner too. I'm not talking about a 15k dollar Raider. I'm comparing a 9k dollar Stryker to an 11k dollar Raider with about 3k miles on each give or take.

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Yikes your screwed lol. Best thing you can do is go test ride them then.
With those numbers the only things to think about is the Strykers liquid cooled, price of insurance is much less, handle ability is better verses Raiders more power, bigger size and more chrome. Oh I don't think it was mentioned that the Raider runs on premium gas. So the only thing that has changed is the price difference. Which now is about $2000? Put that much in power mods in the Stryker and I don't think the Raider would be much faster if at all.
To me because of where I ride the liquid cooled would be the seller. In fact it is because I have been shopping for another bike for long rides to replace the 950 and that wight Raider sure caught my attention but it boils down to the liquid cooled. So we will be a two Stryker family if we can get a good deal.
I think after all the input I'm still excited most about the Stryker. Anyone think I can get the dealer to throw a 240 on the back as part of the purchase?

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And just some background; I've been riding for 13 months and my first/current bike is a 97 Suzuki Bandit 600. Don't laugh. I got it to learn on and I paid 1600 for it in mint condition and only 4500 miles on it. Also because I didn't want to buy a first bike that would make me cry when I dropped it learning to ride. Luckily I never did drop this bike and can't wait for my Stryker. So regardless of which bike, it will be like going from a civic to a corvette. Also, I LOVE this forum. It's even good enough to be factor when choosing which bike as it decides which community I'd belong to. So I look forward to many noob questions for you guys here shortly.

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I'm not sure how you feel about ebay and craigslist, but there are some nice strykers to be found w/ low miles + aftermarket extras. I bought mine thru ebay and couldnt be happier. Theres currently a nice blacked out blue one for $6800, w/ V&H pipes, spike intake, PCV and more w/ 850 miles.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yama...pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item3f27c7edef&vxp=mtr
I'm looking at this one:

http://www.bjsyamaha.com/default.as...lib/nimg/400x200/2011_Yamaha_Stryker_Base.jpg

There is also a similar one on craigslist for 1k cheaper.


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Also my financing limits me to dealerships and local private sellers. But that blue Stryker is amazing. Love the black pieces. Even if I get this copper one with crome it will soon have as much black as I can get onto it.

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Love it. I'm in New Mexico. So its worth the 1k not to have to leave the state. I can't imagine a dealer would have one cheap enough to make me travel.

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The copper seems to be unpopular. So I like it for the simple fact that not many people have that color. Unique. At least until I make it flat black. A look I absolutely love. Not as unique. But I can't get over the way it looks.

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