Love it. I'm in New Mexico. So its worth the 1k not to have to leave the state. I can't imagine a dealer would have one cheap enough to make me travel.
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My first post. Love the forum. I have been looking forward to buying a Stryker for months now. But I came across a Raider at a great price. But after plenty of research, I am actually very lost as to how or why a Raider is a better bike than the Stryker. It seems like the bigger engine only makes the bike an unoticeable bit faster than the Stryker; based on the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times I have found. Clearly it has more torque and HP but why are the numbers almost identical. I ask because on paper the bigger engine doesn't seem to equal better performance.
I am interested to know what I am obviously missing. My intentions are to ride with a passenger at times and on long trips. I like the looks of both bikes equally. So performance and comfort are the deciding factor here. But I am not seeing a difference in performance or comfort that justifies the extra cash. Any input would be appreciated.
I am interested to know what I am obviously missing. My intentions are to ride with a passenger at times and on long trips. I like the looks of both bikes equally. So performance and comfort are the deciding factor here. But I am not seeing a difference in performance or comfort that justifies the extra cash. Any input would be appreciated.
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The copper seems to be unpopular. So I like it for the simple fact that not many people have that color. Unique. At least until I make it flat black. A look I absolutely love. Not as unique. But I can't get over the way it looks.
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I'm at the Stryker and Raider rally right now. There is not a single raider here that I can best in a straight away. They can corner nearly as good as us and can beat us in any straight. 2 up riding in a raider can handle twisties so much easier as well.
Just based on the numbers I can find it seems like any large disparity in times would be due to rider skill level. Example: I bet there are MANY Stryker owners here that would smoke me if I was on a Raider as I am a very new rider with 0 experience on a Raider. But that's excellent info from a great vantage point. I wish I was at a Stryker/Raider rally. I could knock out every single question in no time. And leave knowing exactly what I should do. Where is this rally?I'm at the Stryker and Raider rally right now. There is not a single raider here that I can best in a straight away. They can corner nearly as good as us and can beat us in any straight. 2 up riding in a raider can handle twisties so much easier as well.
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And are you throwing your 2 cents towards the Raider? Being at the rally with all those bikes...which one would you get?I'm at the Stryker and Raider rally right now. There is not a single raider here that I can best in a straight away. They can corner nearly as good as us and can beat us in any straight. 2 up riding in a raider can handle twisties so much easier as well.
I went from a kz 550 to the 1303 Stryker. That was a big jump for me. If I were to choose a bike now, with my added skill level I would pick the raider. It handles 2 up much easier out here and that's all I ever ride.
Thanks for the input. I'm assuming you have rode a Raider. Coming from a slower 600, how will the transition be ro a Stryker and Raider?
2013 Pearl White Stryker is the rarest by far. Only ever seen one at a dealership in Elmira. Never seen any on the road.The copper seems to be unpopular. So I like it for the simple fact that not many people have that color. Unique. At least until I make it flat black. A look I absolutely love. Not as unique. But I can't get over the way it looks.
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Yeah and I like that color as well. My dealership her in New Mexico seems to always have several. But I do see many white bikes as well. I have seen one on the road. I went to a Rally two weeks ago and there were (supposedly) over 3,000 bikes. I only ran across one Copper bike and it looked like a Harley. When I think about it I like the Stryker in every color. If I bought new I'd get the black midnight. But I'm quite happy with the color of the two used Stryker's in Copper2013 Pearl White Stryker is the rarest by far. Only ever seen one at a dealership in Elmira. Never seen any on the road.
Both dealerships close to me have Pearl White Stryker's in the showrooms
Raider is heavier and more torque. It just depends how confident you are, if you have several years and you like the look of one over the other get it. It is not a race, but seeing how I two up all the time I should have bought a raider.
Also - if you do want a raider, maybe wait for the new models. They are prob coming out with a 6 speed.
I think I'm all set with the Stryker. I've decided. I'll let everyone know when I pick it up. Thanks for all the input. Got way more replies than I anticipated.
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I'm at the Stryker and Raider rally right now. There is not a single raider here that I can best in a straight away. They can corner nearly as good as us and can beat us in any straight. 2 up riding in a raider can handle twisties so much easier as well.
Just curious. Is your Stryker stock or modded? I would think a Stryker with a cobra tri flow two into one exhaust, cobra power flow air filter, a fuel tuner and a 30 tooth
Pulley should at best hold its own against a stock Raider? The Strykers smaller cc motor
is still pound for pound a better deal.IMHOP.
I have Vance and vines pipes, hyper charger , and cobra tuner. Not a chance in **** I can keep up on straights.
Pound for dollar maybe, but, pound for pound the Raider motor is 550 more cc than the Stryker.Just curious. Is your Stryker stock or modded? I would think a Stryker with a cobra tri flow two into one exhaust, cobra power flow air filter, a fuel tuner and a 30 tooth
Pulley should at best hold its own against a stock Raider? The Strykers smaller cc motor
is still pound for pound a better deal.IMHOP.
Thats a whole another motor for many bikes.Pound for dollar maybe, but, pound for pound the Raider motor is 550 more cc than the Stryker.
Pound for dollar maybe, but, pound for pound the Raider motor is 550 more cc than the Stryker.
I can't agree on that. Case inpoint. If you do the same mods on a raider as the Stryker you get around 97-100HP on the Raider with its 113 cubes. On the Stryker your at 78-80+ hp according some some who have been dynoed with the same basic three mods. So for 80 cubes your getting 80 horse's. The Raider would have to be at 113 horse's. Tq of course would be alot more simply because of the bigger cubes of the Raider. Torque is off the line, Hp keeps you there,Hp is a by product of TQ. My Roadliner had a slipon pipe, modded air box,Cobra auto tuner. It ran very good. But a GPS'T top speed was 124MPH and the gearing is alot shorter on the liners and Raiders. Both bikes are not geared for the highway, they rev very high at 70MPH for a big 113 cubic inch motor. 3,200 RPM'S is pretty high at 70MPH and that is another reason they are quick .I was doing 120MPH on my totally stock Stryker (corrected speedo healer I installed) two up. I pretty sure I had a little more to go . Im pretty sure owneing a Roadliner and its 113 cubes I do have some experience with its power. Stryker feels about the same, you just have to twist the throttle a little more,LOL. I love this motor in the Stryker so much I would not be suprised this winter if I remove the heads and have them ported and polished by Patrick raceing where I had my Roadstars big bore kit done. I will have my Stryker dynoed as soon as I can after I install my Cobra Tri flow pipe, cobra power flow air cleaner and my EJK tuner ,which will be all on by next weekend. I just want to find a dyno that is at a lower elevation than my area, probably Atlanta area. If I can get 80+ hp from 80 cubes vrs 100HP from 113 cubes, that is cube for cube a better deal.:wink:.
I had done a "110" big bore on my 2004 Roadstar silverado because some guys in the southern cruisers I rode with called my Road star a SLUG STAR. Then I ripped apart the motor ,sent the jugs out to Patrick raceing (the Warrior champ shop) and had it bored to 111.36CC. I kept the heads stock except for the speed star springs. No porting of any kind. I did the speed star cams, 42mm side draft carb, barons big air kit, ported the stock intake myself, dyna 3000 inj. I did this all my self. V&H power shots. I dynoed on a hot day at 95.8HP and 119.56 TQ. I blew away the VTX'S in my group and to add insult I got beteen 50-55 MPG. They then called my Roadstar a torque monster,LOL. I know my Yamahas pretty good.
I'm talking about, literally speaking, pound for pound of the motors and even overall weight of the bikes, there isn't as much difference in comparison to the massive displacement differences..I can't agree on that. Case inpoint. If you do the same mods on a raider as the Stryker you get around 97-100HP on the Raider with its 113 cubes. On the Stryker your at 78-80+ hp according some some who have been dynoed with the same basic three mods. So for 80 cubes your getting 80 horse's. The Raider would have to be at 113 horse's. Tq of course would be alot more simply because of the bigger cubes of the Raider. Torque is off the line, Hp keeps you there,Hp is a by product of TQ. My Roadliner had a slipon pipe, modded air box,Cobra auto tuner. It ran very good. But a GPS'T top speed was 124MPH and the gearing is alot shorter on the liners and Raiders. Both bikes are not geared for the highway, they rev very high at 70MPH for a big 113 cubic inch motor. 3,200 RPM'S is pretty high at 70MPH and that is another reason they are quick .I was doing 120MPH on my totally stock Stryker (corrected speedo healer I installed) two up. I pretty sure I had a little more to go . Im pretty sure owneing a Roadliner and its 113 cubes I do have some experience with its power. Stryker feels about the same, you just have to twist the throttle a little more,LOL. I love this motor in the Stryker so much I would not be suprised this winter if I remove the heads and have them ported and polished by Patrick raceing where I had my Roadstars big bore kit done. I will have my Stryker dynoed as soon as I can after I install my Cobra Tri flow pipe, cobra power flow air cleaner and my EJK tuner ,which will be all on by next weekend. I just want to find a dyno that is at a lower elevation than my area, probably Atlanta area. If I can get 80+ hp from 80 cubes vrs 100HP from 113 cubes, that is cube for cube a better deal.:wink:.
I had done a "110" big bore on my 2004 Roadstar silverado because some guys in the southern cruisers I rode with called my Road star a SLUG STAR. Then I ripped apart the motor ,sent the jugs out to Patrick raceing (the Warrior champ shop) and had it bored to 111.36CC. I kept the heads stock except for the speed star springs. No porting of any kind. I did the speed star cams, 42mm side draft carb, barons big air kit, ported the stock intake myself, dyna 3000 inj. I did this all my self. V&H power shots. I dynoed on a hot day at 95.8HP and 119.56 TQ. I blew away the VTX'S in my group and to add insult I got beteen 50-55 MPG. They then called my Roadstar a torque monster,LOL. I know my Yamahas pretty good.
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