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If you don't mind me asking... Why are you changing back?
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I didn't like how the bike felt in sharper curves and how much more raised the rear was. when I went from a 210 to the 240 I at first liked it but overtime I just couldn't get comfortable on the bike. Now that I have gone back to the 210 I love the bike again and I feel I can be alot more aggressive on the bike in the turns. In the past year I haven't been riding the bike much because of it and couldn't figure out why until I rode my buddies raider who still has a 210 on it that is when I started blaming the larger rear tire and come to find out that was the reason. the bike just fits me alot better with the 210
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I hope it's not the profile of the tire.
I just went to a 240 and haven't got aggressive with it yet until I get @ 100 miles on it.
It's still very new and slippery!
I knew the tire was going to raise the bike a little so I got the lowering links to compensate.
So far it feels the same around town and on my back road as it did before the change but like I said, I haven't railed it yet.
Looking at the profile of the Metzler M880 Marathon that I put on it looks like it's more rounded which tells me I have less of a flat spot to overcome to initiate turns.
Maybe different brands have a different profile on the narrow rim?
I just went to a 240 and haven't got aggressive with it yet until I get @ 100 miles on it.
It's still very new and slippery!
I knew the tire was going to raise the bike a little so I got the lowering links to compensate.
So far it feels the same around town and on my back road as it did before the change but like I said, I haven't railed it yet.
Looking at the profile of the Metzler M880 Marathon that I put on it looks like it's more rounded which tells me I have less of a flat spot to overcome to initiate turns.
Maybe different brands have a different profile on the narrow rim?
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with the lowering kit it would of helped alittle but alot of it felt like you said the profile of the tire it took more of my input in the turn with the 240 then with the 210. And also as you said It had a smaller footprint. I never felt like it was dangerous or slippery, it just didn't feel comfortable. I didn't feel it at first it took overtime when I realized I didn't like riding it anymore and started thinking of selling the bike but once I decided to try the tire first when I first got on the bike at the dealership after they mounted the 210 back on it the bike felt perfect again.
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Technically i'm still a member til i sell the tire
but I figured I would have some saying that they disagree. You can see my chicken strips in the picture my original 210 and the new one doesn't have them I've rode sport bikes for 15 years so i'm not usually not chicken but we don't have alot of heavy banking curves so there common around here. Good point :thumb:Technically i'm still a member til i sell the tire
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So after work I took my mistress out and rode her HARD!!!
The original 210 had a flatter profile in the middle so initiating a turn took more input from me and the MUCH more rounded 240 lays over with little or no noticeable pre-planned counter-steer making the bike MUCH more intuitive to me... Yeah, I love it. It seems like a lighter, narrower bike in the twisties (Not that I ride it like a sport bike)
On the other note, the head shake... I took it up to 85 on the hiway and jiggled the bars a bit to destabilize the bike but it never acted up.
In fact I set the cruise control at 70 and took both hands of the bars.
It feels very stable.
It's a bummer you didn't like the way your set up felt but It's great that you have the right set up for you now.
Sometimes what's right for one is wrong for another.
I think I'll leave the height where it is for now, it seems perfect.
I don't scrape when I ride normal and I don't bottom out on the speed bumps in the neighborhood AND the tire fills the fender just right!
I'm a happy fat white boy tonight!!!:thumb:
The original 210 had a flatter profile in the middle so initiating a turn took more input from me and the MUCH more rounded 240 lays over with little or no noticeable pre-planned counter-steer making the bike MUCH more intuitive to me... Yeah, I love it. It seems like a lighter, narrower bike in the twisties (Not that I ride it like a sport bike)
On the other note, the head shake... I took it up to 85 on the hiway and jiggled the bars a bit to destabilize the bike but it never acted up.
In fact I set the cruise control at 70 and took both hands of the bars.
It feels very stable.
It's a bummer you didn't like the way your set up felt but It's great that you have the right set up for you now.
Sometimes what's right for one is wrong for another.
I think I'll leave the height where it is for now, it seems perfect.
I don't scrape when I ride normal and I don't bottom out on the speed bumps in the neighborhood AND the tire fills the fender just right!
I'm a happy fat white boy tonight!!!:thumb:
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Ok just reading through this thread and I find it very interesting. I’m still on my stock tires at 5,700k but I can’t wait until they are burned off so I can get the Avon 240 & matching front. And what’s interesting is just the opposite of what Chris wants, the main reason I am looking forward to this switch is to gain more ground clearance because I’m scraping the crap out of my footpegs, and even past that scraping the frame under that. I’ve post these before but pics down below of what I’m talking about. But can’t wait to go 240 and more clearance :thumb:
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Not enough sharp curves around my area to grind mine that much around here so i'm jealous. I did use to be stationed in north california and loved taking my 98 R1 down hwy 1 all the way to San Fran. I ride 2 up ALOT also i can barely sneak out of the house with the wife jumping on and that is where I really didn't like the ride with the 240 vs the 210.
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Got rid of that one in 2002 and then bought a 2003 gsxr 1000 and had it until last year when i sold it. I'm wanting another r1 i'm really liking the new flat black ones they have out now. I actually like cruising on sport bikes. the stryker is mainly for the wife and I to 2 up on.
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If you guys didn't read my evaluation of the four tires, Stock 210, Metz ME 880 240, Dunlop E3 240 and Michelin C II 240. There is night and day differences between them. The 880 and C II having the closest characteristics. The stock 210 was the worst for grip as I could feel floating and rubber coming off in fast hard curves. The Metz I think puts the most patch to surface contact due to their patented design. It has a three independent belt system. Meaning three belts that work separate from one another. When you roll onto the side it flattens independently of the center belt allowing more surface to surface contact and a much less lean angle to manipulate curves at speed. Same with riding straight up, the center belt flattens independently from the two side ones. The C II has a similar feel with a large arced surface with no noticeable crown. The E 3 has a much higher crown and pronounced arc and you can really feel it when you corner. It falls over and rolls deep into curves more similar to standard cruiser tires and even sport tourer bikes. This was quit scary for my wife on the back at speeds of 90 to 110 in curves that she was comfortable doing the same curves with the Metzlers. We were at a much deeper lean angle. A very noticeable difference. In fact I took the E3 off with only 2,000 on it as soon as I got the C II.
I liked the Metz second to the Michelin. Michelin rules.:nod: Can't comment on Avon as I haven't tried them. But they are the smallest over all diameter, so I would imagine they would feel closer to the stock tire than the others.
I liked the Metz second to the Michelin. Michelin rules.:nod: Can't comment on Avon as I haven't tried them. But they are the smallest over all diameter, so I would imagine they would feel closer to the stock tire than the others.
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