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ive owned my bike for about a months now, and we had some bad weather here lately, so havent rode much. some how i picked up a (looks to be like a staple) I was wanting to patch it from the inside, but local dealer would not do it cuz of liability reasons. so i ended buying a brand new stock tire $240 out the door. i kept old tire. do you guys think its good idea to get it patched or just get rid of it? it only has 350 miles on it.
 

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I personally would ride the crap out of it with a patch on it. I work with a guy who's a certified mechanic for every major bike manufacturer who has told me he would -and has- put a bicycle tire patch on the inside of a tire. And he'd still ride it at 160mph all day.

You're not going to find anyone to do it for you, though. At least, I never could. They don't want to get blamed if the tire blows out and you die. Come to that, neither do I. So take my advise with a grain of salt, and consider that I ride around with a huge car tire on the back of mine. Comes down to your tolerance for risk, I guess.

If you do patch it and keep it, be careful of how you store it. I would think a dry rotted tire is more likely to fail than a patched one.
 

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silvervic99stang said:
ive owned my bike for about a months now, and we had some bad weather here lately, so havent rode much. some how i picked up a (looks to be like a staple) I was wanting to patch it from the inside, but local dealer would not do it cuz of liability reasons. so i ended buying a brand new stock tire $240 out the door. i kept old tire. do you guys think its good idea to get it patched or just get rid of it? it only has 350 miles on it.
There are many different views on this subject. Mine is simple... is your life worth $240.00? Or more importantly, does your family think your life is worth $240.00..... In my opinion, you did the smartest thing you could do in that position. My gripe is with the dealer... why didn't they prorate your tire for you???
 

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OMG!!! I feel you my friend. This same scenario happened to me too like 3 weeks ago. Got a freakin nail on my almost new rear tire, but in my case I pluged it myself which is what I'm riding on right now. The tire guy from cycle gear took a look @ my tire and he said "dude just buy a plug kit and plug it, just don't ride to fast" and that's what I did. But after seeing my little 3 month old baby princess and my super beautiful young wife, I'm like "I'll just buy a new tire" :) I honestly think you could've done better tho. As a matter of fact I saw the ups guy this morning walking up to my door, with my new Dunlop 250-40-18 on his hand, and tomorrow I'm taking it to the shop and get it installed. I purchased the tire for $170 bucks shipped. If you can hold from riding for some time and if you can still return the tire, and buy this one for a lot less. You'll be saving some good bucks my friend. Good luck to you!!
 

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i wanted to go to a bigger tire but the dang service tech in h and w honda in marshall texas kept saying that he personally would not put a wider tire on it. i sat there and did a stare down with him about bigger tire, im new to ridding, i told him bunch of you guys on this forum have wider tires. he said forums are junk. and he would not even try to find me a wider tire. i was pressed with time so i said forget it and just go with the 210.. and in pro rating it. i wonder if i call now and ask if they will still do that if they even do that would they go back and do it. i doubt it. being the way he was about what i purchased.
 

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silvervic99stang said:
i wanted to go to a bigger tire but the dang service tech in h and w honda in marshall texas kept saying that he personally would not put a wider tire on it. i sat there and did a stare down with him about bigger tire, im new to ridding, i told him bunch of you guys on this forum have wider tires. he said forums are junk. and he would not even try to find me a wider tire. i was pressed with time so i said forget it and just go with the 210.. and in pro rating it. i wonder if i call now and ask if they will still do that if they even do that would they go back and do it. i doubt it. being the way he was about what i purchased.
May I suggest a new shop for your bike to be serviced at??!! That guy was a total jacka$$ about it. And yes, may of the people on here do have 240 and 250 rear tires. Sounds like he was just lazy, and yes, the larger tires will squeeze on our stock rims. If push comes to shove, are you willing to get the larger tire, and sell the stock 210 you have on it now?? If you do this, try not to ride too much at all...it would be better if you didn't ride at all, save to get the tire replaced. This will help to preserve the 210 for later selling on ebay, craigslist, etc. Good luck getting the guy to refund the tire, or put this expense toward a new 250, and refunding the difference, if any.
 

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I worked in a shop for years and never herd any story's of blowouts due to a properly patched tire failing. Given the hole your talking about is no bigger than a nail and is not a slice or cut. What you need to be careful of is the sidewall. For example car tires do not have the steel bands on the sidewall like they do on the tread and therefor are the weakest part. Since our tires basically have no sidewall you are perfectly fine so long you don't exceed the speed rating of the tire.

My last bike (06 yamaha R6) had steel bands showing with a patch and held just fine 100+ mph. Yes I know how stupid I was :) Its amazing how kids make you grow up and change your ways.
 

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silvervic99stang said:
ive owned my bike for about a months now, and we had some bad weather here lately, so havent rode much. some how i picked up a (looks to be like a staple) I was wanting to patch it from the inside, but local dealer would not do it cuz of liability reasons. so i ended buying a brand new stock tire $240 out the door. i kept old tire. do you guys think its good idea to get it patched or just get rid of it? it only has 350 miles on it.
There are many different views on this subject. Mine is simple... is your life worth $240.00? Or more importantly, does your family think your life is worth $240.00..... In my opinion, you did the smartest thing you could do in that position. My gripe is with the dealer... why didn't they prorate your tire for you???
I've heard this same argument on a lot of topics. Helmets, tires, even cars. I know a guy who will only buy BMWs because they have the best safety rating. I personally think my family is better served by doing some research and making reasonable financial decisions.
 

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I worked in a shop for years and never herd any story's of blowouts due to a properly patched tire failing. Given the hole your talking about is no bigger than a nail and is not a slice or cut. What you need to be careful of is the sidewall. For example car tires do not have the steel bands on the sidewall like they do on the tread and therefor are the weakest part. Since our tires basically have no sidewall you are perfectly fine so long you don't exceed the speed rating of the tire.
I agree with the above and also with all the posters who say just to replace. Why?? Because in situation #1 you hopefully have done some research and will be more diligent about checking the tire for leaks, wear around the plug/patch etc. Situation #2(replacing) is also good for many since if you are focusing/worried about the patch/plug too much you aren't concentrating on the road and that decreases your safety.

Still have mine plugged and am watching it. Over the winter I'll see how much more air it loses verses the front tire if any and factor that into everything. As others have said $250 just isn't worth an accident so at the first sign of trouble I'm getting a new one(240 this time).

To the OP: Personally I'd save the tire and patch it to have as a spare. If you're never going to run a plug/patch then you could see what you might get for it on Craigslist etc.
 

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silvervic99stang said:
i wanted to go to a bigger tire but the dang service tech in h and w honda in marshall texas kept saying that he personally would not put a wider tire on it. i sat there and did a stare down with him about bigger tire, im new to ridding, i told him bunch of you guys on this forum have wider tires. he said forums are junk. and he would not even try to find me a wider tire. i was pressed with time so i said forget it and just go with the 210.. and in pro rating it. i wonder if i call now and ask if they will still do that if they even do that would they go back and do it. i doubt it. being the way he was about what i purchased.
May I suggest a new shop for your bike to be serviced at??!! That guy was a total jacka$$ about it. And yes, may of the people on here do have 240 and 250 rear tires. Sounds like he was just lazy, and yes, the larger tires will squeeze on our stock rims. If push comes to shove, are you willing to get the larger tire, and sell the stock 210 you have on it now?? If you do this, try not to ride too much at all...it would be better if you didn't ride at all, save to get the tire replaced. This will help to preserve the 210 for later selling on ebay, craigslist, etc. Good luck getting the guy to refund the tire, or put this expense toward a new 250, and refunding the difference, if any.
Ok first off the guy is a real douche and an idiot.....if the hole in the tire is not close to the sidewall plug it and keep it just make sure you store it where it won't start to dry rot (like in a closet). A friend of mine was in town last year and needed a new rear tire (he already had a 240 on his Raider) he called one of the dealerships in town and they said that a 240 wouldn't fit on a Raider........3 of us plus him rode to the dealership (all of us have 240's) got the tech to come outside to take a look- to see if he could explain how they got on our bikes.....
 

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ROADKILL said:
Wyntress said:
silvervic99stang said:
i wanted to go to a bigger tire but the dang service tech in h and w honda in marshall texas kept saying that he personally would not put a wider tire on it. i sat there and did a stare down with him about bigger tire, im new to ridding, i told him bunch of you guys on this forum have wider tires. he said forums are junk. and he would not even try to find me a wider tire. i was pressed with time so i said forget it and just go with the 210.. and in pro rating it. i wonder if i call now and ask if they will still do that if they even do that would they go back and do it. i doubt it. being the way he was about what i purchased.

May I suggest a new shop for your bike to be serviced at??!! That guy was a total jacka$$ about it. And yes, may of the people on here do have 240 and 250 rear tires. Sounds like he was just lazy, and yes, the larger tires will squeeze on our stock rims. If push comes to shove, are you willing to get the larger tire, and sell the stock 210 you have on it now?? If you do this, try not to ride too much at all...it would be better if you didn't ride at all, save to get the tire replaced. This will help to preserve the 210 for later selling on ebay, craigslist, etc. Good luck getting the guy to refund the tire, or put this expense toward a new 250, and refunding the difference, if any.
Ok first off the guy is a real douche and an idiot.....if the hole in the tire is not close to the sidewall plug it and keep it just make sure you store it where it won't start to dry rot (like in a closet). A friend of mine was in town last year and needed a new rear tire (he already had a 240 on his Raider) he called one of the dealerships in town and they said that a 240 wouldn't fit on a Raider........3 of us plus him rode to the dealership (all of us have 240's) got the tech to come outside to take a look- to see if he could explain how they got on our bikes.....
ROADKILL now that's funny. What did the tech say.
Plugged my 240 Metz 4,000 miles ago. The plug will out last the tire.
To the OP, the mechanic that said he wouldn't order a 240 and put it on had an over stock of 210s he wasn't selling.
 

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Just because the guy is a TECH dosnt mean he knows what he's talking about. Most of the time these guys are parts changers who only read what the service manual tells them. I'm sure he looked at the computer and it says 210 only because that's what the rim was designed for. Happens all the time. It's not their fault they don't know but there is no excuse for a piss poor attitude and or know it all attitude.

For example my 4 wheeler shares some of the same parts as other quads but the part numbers are totally different and prices are different! Looking at the service manual you would think the parts are not interchangeable.

Bottom line no excuse for a know it all tech with a ****ty attitude. Put the 240 on and love it!
 

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Umm..really... are "we" really worried about riding on a tire that has a small hole from a staple and is patched... really... Someone tell me a realistic scenario where as a patched tire will fail from a staple hole that has been patched.... I have rode on tires that have been patched and have NEVER had a catastophic failure... or any failure for that matter. IF we had 200mph cruisers... I might say Hmmm "path or replace". But we have 80MPH cruisers and I will not hesitate to patch.... NOW if it had a tear or split near the outer edge of the tread... that is a different story... replace it. BUT A STAPLE HOLE that obviously had a slow leak.... ****.. ride-on goo would patch that right up...
 

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I agree, patch it and go. Now the way I am I would use that story to tell the wife in order to get a new 240 or 250 even though I know it would be safe to ride on a patch. What she don't know won't hurt her just as long as I get the ok to get a new wider tire. Lmao
 

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Really that little hole is just a reason ::) to get rid of that Bridgestone, 210 or patch it so you can practice burn outs before you get rid of it. ;D
 
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