For those out there who have either had a semblance of these grips on a previous bike, or currently have them, I have a quick question for you; Did/do you have any trouble with the left grip "seeming" to be lose. I installed these a few days ago and have since gone on a few rides. The left grip is installed (according to the techs at my dealership) but they seem off to me. I can twist it like the throttle. By this I mean that the metal casing outside the rubber will move around. The rubber however seems to be in place. So is this just a reality of the grip, or did I by some chance go wrong here? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Kury ISO Grips question.
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Sounds like the glue didn't set correctly. I'd redo it.
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Glue can be a sticky subject... haha ??? :
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Anyways, if the humidity is wrong or the temperature to high different types of glue reacts adversely depending.
I'd get some gorilla glue and put it on the left grip only, never use gorilla on the right if you have glue ons on that side.. you'll regret it. But, on the left side it's freaking awesome.
:-\Anyways, if the humidity is wrong or the temperature to high different types of glue reacts adversely depending.
I'd get some gorilla glue and put it on the left grip only, never use gorilla on the right if you have glue ons on that side.. you'll regret it. But, on the left side it's freaking awesome.
Yeah, I plan on a re-do. It doesent feel right to have anything move but the throttle. The odd thing is, the rubber doesent move around the bar, on the black metal around the rubber. Am I suppose to put glue between them as well? :-\
Okay...you lost me with the last statement. This video might help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYLZaQH1O8M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYLZaQH1O8M
I agree with the others that the glue wasn't applied or something .... if the entire grip rotates like your throttle does.....
But as I read your post again I see you've noted that it felt like the metal casing was rotating around the rubber? I not sure how the metal casing could rotate around the fixed-in-place rubber since the rubber pads actually stick right through the metal casing by quite a large bit.... (I've attached a pic showing how much the rubber sticks out through the metal casing on the ISO grips.)
As long as the rubber on your grip is pushed through the metal casing like the attached pics, then it's definitely a glue issue......
But as I read your post again I see you've noted that it felt like the metal casing was rotating around the rubber? I not sure how the metal casing could rotate around the fixed-in-place rubber since the rubber pads actually stick right through the metal casing by quite a large bit.... (I've attached a pic showing how much the rubber sticks out through the metal casing on the ISO grips.)
As long as the rubber on your grip is pushed through the metal casing like the attached pics, then it's definitely a glue issue......
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Yeah, that was the vid I watched before hand. And is similar to the install instructions. (Tho they go throttle then clutch side) Didnt mean to confuse you, let me try to clear it up. In the example of that video, Were the chrome part not attached to the grip, then mine does not move. The rubber is locked onto the bar. But the rubber and the chrome part are two different pieces. The chrome part can move like the throttle around the inner rubber piece. They are sealed together. This was my question. Normal or no. I was expecting the rubber to be pads installed on the outside of a metal bar cover. Instead it is a rubber piece sticking through holes in the metal cover. Thus two pieces, thus with the metal not being attached it will be able to slide around. Not off the bike, just able to move on the mounted rubber sleeve.
Yeah, thats what Im assuming Skematik. When I talked to the tech at my dealer, He seemed to think it was installed but that it still didnt feel right. Im under the assumption that somewhere there is suppose to be glue that I missed. But unless Im also suppose to glue the metal to the rubber, Im at a loss as to where.
On a similar note, "Goof Off" to re-remove the super glue? Or does anyone have a better suggestion.
Yeah, thats what Im assuming Skematik. When I talked to the tech at my dealer, He seemed to think it was installed but that it still didnt feel right. Im under the assumption that somewhere there is suppose to be glue that I missed. But unless Im also suppose to glue the metal to the rubber, Im at a loss as to where.
On a similar note, "Goof Off" to re-remove the super glue? Or does anyone have a better suggestion.
No, the metal and rubber don't need to be glued together, but you're correct in that the rubber and metal are separate pieces and that the rubber pads do poke through the holes in the metal casing. But, if the grips are sized correctly for your handlebar diameter, then the metal couldn't possibly spin around the rubber since it's pushed through sooo far. The only way it could, is if the rubber were to be "baggy" loose around the actual handlebar and you could physically push the rubber pads down below the metal casing..... the rubber pads should always be sticking up and through the holes of the metal casing.....
I'm not entirely sure if all that makes sense to you all reading it,.... but.... it sounded about right in my head. lol :
I'm not entirely sure if all that makes sense to you all reading it,.... but.... it sounded about right in my head. lol :
For clarification; 1st pic is as it sits on the bike. 2nd pic is lightly rotated (about the same amount of tension required to move the throttle) down, like the throttle moves, 3rd pic is the opposite direction.
http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/gallery/235-170811000023.jpeg
http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/gallery/235-170811000051.jpeg
http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/gallery/235-170811000140.jpeg
Forgive the fingerprints, bike needs a good bath badly.
http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/gallery/235-170811000023.jpeg
http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/gallery/235-170811000051.jpeg
http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/gallery/235-170811000140.jpeg
Forgive the fingerprints, bike needs a good bath badly.
Wow man! I've sooo not ever seen something like that before with these grips.... I'd definitely bring that back to the dealer who you bought them from/ installed them to show 'em that! I couldn't do that with mine if I tried.......
* a few minutes pass *
Ok, so I ran out into the garage to actually realllly try to twist just the metal part around on mine with a no go.... and since my buddy who bought my last bike (v-star 650 that I had installed the chrome ISOs on when I had it) happened to be here right now .... I tried on his as well .... additionally I was thinking maybe extreme heat could make the rubber "mushy" enough to do that .... so keeping in mind it's still 100 degrees still in my garage even at this hour.... and I have my bike parked out in the past month's Texas summer heat all day long at work every day... and still haven't been able to do what your pics show...... something is very wrong with that grip.
Do you happen to have alot of "play" around the end of the grip on the throttle side? The end the throttle cable hooks onto wouldn't since it's pretty much held in place by the housing and cables, but if there's a bunch of play at the bar end portion of that grip then I'd wonder if those grips were for a different/ larger diameter of handlebar....??? In other words the rubber pads shouldn't be ABLE to drop below the surface of the metal casing,.... for it to spin around them like in your pics. Only if the rubber pads were around a smaller diameter handlebar could they "collapse" inward enough for the metal casing to be able to pass over them.....
*UPDATED*
Never mind, scratch that whole checking with the throttle side as I just went and looked at our throttle side ISOs and they have enough "play" within them that they simply couldn't be a determining factor....
Either way, at the very least, your left side grip has something wrong and they should absolutely make it right for you.
* a few minutes pass *
Ok, so I ran out into the garage to actually realllly try to twist just the metal part around on mine with a no go.... and since my buddy who bought my last bike (v-star 650 that I had installed the chrome ISOs on when I had it) happened to be here right now .... I tried on his as well .... additionally I was thinking maybe extreme heat could make the rubber "mushy" enough to do that .... so keeping in mind it's still 100 degrees still in my garage even at this hour.... and I have my bike parked out in the past month's Texas summer heat all day long at work every day... and still haven't been able to do what your pics show...... something is very wrong with that grip.
Do you happen to have alot of "play" around the end of the grip on the throttle side? The end the throttle cable hooks onto wouldn't since it's pretty much held in place by the housing and cables, but if there's a bunch of play at the bar end portion of that grip then I'd wonder if those grips were for a different/ larger diameter of handlebar....??? In other words the rubber pads shouldn't be ABLE to drop below the surface of the metal casing,.... for it to spin around them like in your pics. Only if the rubber pads were around a smaller diameter handlebar could they "collapse" inward enough for the metal casing to be able to pass over them.....
*UPDATED*
Never mind, scratch that whole checking with the throttle side as I just went and looked at our throttle side ISOs and they have enough "play" within them that they simply couldn't be a determining factor....
Either way, at the very least, your left side grip has something wrong and they should absolutely make it right for you.
Yeah, I was wondering that very same thing. No, the throttle side seems to be fine. This bring me back to an assumed glue issue. I purchased these grips from my dealer, and was told they were the correct ones. As they just got their first shipment of Stryker stuff from Kury. I suppose its possible for them to be the wrong grips, In which case I need to go have a little discussion with their parts guy.
Either way Ill settle for a few min of my time and some more super glue to try a re-install. On that note, how would you suggest I get these back off. Like I said the rubber doesent move, and with the black casing around it, I dont see myself being able to Flathead->WD40 them back off. Suggestions?
Either way Ill settle for a few min of my time and some more super glue to try a re-install. On that note, how would you suggest I get these back off. Like I said the rubber doesent move, and with the black casing around it, I dont see myself being able to Flathead->WD40 them back off. Suggestions?
I was just thinking that even though the end user/ installer, doesn't put glue between the metal casing and the rubber.... it's not to say that Kury does have some sort of glue between these parts. I've never checked before installing my grips before to see if the rubber easily pushes inward and can rotate.... not thinking about it with that purpose anyway.
And since I cannot think of an easy way to remove ISOs without damaging them, (even with the end caps taken off, I don't see how anyone could get a WD-40 long nozzle anywhere up in there since the bar end hole is smaller than the grip diameter). I still think it's defective in some way and if they've got more Kury grips for Stryker, they should replace it... especially if there's supposed to be an adhesive between the casing and rubber.... this headache shouldn't fall onto you to remedy. It shouldn't take them more than 5-10 minutes to get that grip off (probably damaging it of course) and then cleaning your handlebar and installing a new grip altogether.
And since I cannot think of an easy way to remove ISOs without damaging them, (even with the end caps taken off, I don't see how anyone could get a WD-40 long nozzle anywhere up in there since the bar end hole is smaller than the grip diameter). I still think it's defective in some way and if they've got more Kury grips for Stryker, they should replace it... especially if there's supposed to be an adhesive between the casing and rubber.... this headache shouldn't fall onto you to remedy. It shouldn't take them more than 5-10 minutes to get that grip off (probably damaging it of course) and then cleaning your handlebar and installing a new grip altogether.
Mmm, thats my hope. They have been on the up and up with me for years now, so I expect to be treated well. But I wonder what they will say since I didnt pay them to install these. Hopefully it wont end up being a headache. Ahh well, an excuse to ride the bike more (even for business) isnt a bad thing.
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I didn't damage mine when I removed them. I just grabbed with 2 hands and twisted. Popped right off.
That's awesome to know. I just read that on another motorcycle forum while google searching for info on removing ISO grips. I wasn't sure of how well that'd work ... (I know I unloaded that Kury glue into my grip when installing it. :Matt said:
) Although from the looks of Deuce's pics, I'd wonder if his casing might come off from around the rubber before his glue breaks loose from the handlebar.... keep us informed on how you tend to this one Deuce. :-\ .............Yeah, will do. On one hand Im glad to hear that manhandling may solve this problem. (When in doubt, kick the crap out of it!) But on the other hand it makes me wonder about these grips if I can pull them off merely by trying. My stock ones were a pain in the ass. (mostly because glue got onto the locking bolt, thus uber locking it in place.)
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You should be gtg.
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I don't think theres a glue from Kury between the rubber and the casing (unless its at the very end). Before I installed mine you could push the rubber back through the casing easily. Mine do twist a little at the inside but I think thats where I missed putting glue. Nothing like you have going on though. Good luck with the dealer.
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