[mikoloe]

Let me break this down to you my way.
PCV $390
Dual wideband Auto tuner $340
2 extra bungs welded $150
Dyno $250
------------------------------------------------------
Total $1130 Plus beers $1500 Total give or take
let me explain the Dyno
Las vegas is where they map the strykers with different air intake and pipes. There were 4 maps the last time I checked. These are good if you live in Vegas.
My bad, I thought I would be good with one on the site. My bike did not run like I anticipated with any of these maps so I went and had my own map done. Im not one to tweek the numbers, ride and tweek the numbers over and over again until I think its right.
Im my opinion, all you need is your own personal DYNO STRYKER map. DONE.
Do the math, Go for it if you want. Im not sayin, Im just sayin...

 

[dejablu110]

huh

 

[1304cc]

Obama? Dynos? Wtf?

 

[SmokenJoe]

Put the bottle down and step away from the keyboard.

 

[quazy50]

 

[Guest]

Let me break this down to you my way.
PCV $390
Dual wideband Auto tuner $340
2 extra bungs welded $150
Dyno $250
------------------------------------------------------
Total $1130 Plus beers and OBAMA talk time $1500
let me explain the Dyno
Las vegas is where they map the strykers with different air intake and pipes. There were 4 maps the last time I checked. These are good if you live in Vegas.
My bad, I thought I would be good with one on the site. My bike did not run like I anticipated with any of these maps so I went and had my own map done. Im not one to tweek the numbers, ride and tweek the numbers over and over again until I think its right.
Im my opinion, all you need is your own personal DYNO STRYKER map. DONE.
OBAMA talk time- costs us more money everytime you say his name.
Do the math, Go for it if you want. Im not sayin, Im just sayin...

[move]Strykerguy I can slow my font down for you if you need it. let me know. HA[/move]

Would you? Because I wouldn't for you. LOL.

 

[toby]

Let me break this down to you my way.
PCV $390
Dual wideband Auto tuner $340
2 extra bungs welded $150
Dyno $250
------------------------------------------------------
Total $1130 Plus beers and OBAMA talk time $1500
let me explain the Dyno
Las vegas is where they map the strykers with different air intake and pipes. There were 4 maps the last time I checked. These are good if you live in Vegas.
My bad, I thought I would be good with one on the site. My bike did not run like I anticipated with any of these maps so I went and had my own map done. Im not one to tweek the numbers, ride and tweek the numbers over and over again until I think its right.
Im my opinion, all you need is your own personal DYNO STRYKER map. DONE.
OBAMA talk time- costs us more money everytime you say his name.
Do the math, Go for it if you want. Im not sayin, Im just sayin...



mikoloe,
Did I miss something here? Seems your upset with some ones comments on the subject .
I agree with you. I think it was you on another thread that I asked what your complaint was with this particular unit combo?

If I understand correctly, you are not happy with the fact that it did not perform as expected and cost to much to have it mapped professionally? Oboma talk being the per hr charge they hit you with for warming up the bike and doing the dyno tests, letting it cool off then doing it again then again then again etc. until they got the numbers dialed in?

This brings me to my point as I explained in other threads on the subject and the point you brought up.
The fact that there are way too many variables in each individual motor, riding styles and environment to not need a (specific mapping for each bike). A map for one may not work as good for another.

Just be thankful that you don't have a Harley as the cost is 3 times that. A guy I talked to in a HD dealer parking lot said it took him a year and $3,000 to get his engine to run right.

Another thing I learned, and I've heard guys here talk about having problems with the tuner getting wet, is that they recommend the auto tuner be removed after tuning is complete whether you save the map to the unit or not because they are prone to water damage. There is more . you guys should research these products thoroughly before messing with them.

 

[sfcmcgan]

Cocain is a helleva drug.... They have groups to help you with them....

 

[toby]

Cocain is a helleva drug.... They have groups to help you with them....

Groups?... Cartels? ya they can help you get all you need

No seriously, did I miss something? You guys are a little brutal here. Why? Not sure I want to know.

 

[Guest]

Cocain is a helleva drug.... They have groups to help you with them....

Groups?... Cartels? ya they can help you get all you need

No seriously, did I miss something? You guys are a little brutal here. Why? Not sure I want to know.

This: http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/index.php/topic,7845.0.html would be the thread that got his panties in a wad, assuming he wasn't born with them already that way.

BTW, the cobra auto tune does not "save" any information for the case in which you remove it. If you remove it, you just have the standard EFI programming.

 

[toby]

Cocain is a helleva drug.... They have groups to help you with them....

Groups?... Cartels? ya they can help you get all you need

No seriously, did I miss something? You guys are a little brutal here. Why? Not sure I want to know.

This: http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/index.php/topic,7845.0.html would be the thread that got his panties in a wad, assuming he wasn't born with them already that way.

BTW, the cobra auto tune does not "save" any information for the case in which you remove it. If you remove it, you just have the standard EFI programming.

Thanks for linking the thread. Not sure I want to go back to see when where and how feathers got ruffled though.
The COBRA Auto tuner does not run piggyback with any other unit. Is that correct?
As for my understanding of the saving of mapping to the auto tuner with the PC-V, it is optional, whether you remove it or not?. You save the map to the piggy backed unit,(PCV), to run your bike in conjunction with the ECU and to your computer for future reference. If you don't save the map to the auto tuner and remove it from the bike then it can be used to map another bike or do a different mapping in the future to your bike. Is this correct? Or am I getting that confused with another unit?

 

[BillyD66]

Let me break this down to you my way.
PCV $390
Dual wideband Auto tuner $340
2 extra bungs welded $150
Dyno $250
------------------------------------------------------
Total $1130 Plus beers and OBAMA talk time $1500
let me explain the Dyno
Las vegas is where they map the strykers with different air intake and pipes. There were 4 maps the last time I checked. These are good if you live in Vegas.
My bad, I thought I would be good with one on the site. My bike did not run like I anticipated with any of these maps so I went and had my own map done. Im not one to tweek the numbers, ride and tweek the numbers over and over again until I think its right.
Im my opinion, all you need is your own personal DYNO STRYKER map. DONE.
OBAMA talk time- costs us more money everytime you say his name.
Do the math, Go for it if you want. Im not sayin, Im just sayin...

[move]Strykerguy I can slow my font down for you if you need it. let me know. HA[/move]

Your candidate lost. Get over it.
If the economy gains/recovers everybody should be happy. Just like during Clinton even though he was a D... If not, then I cannot help you. Go for a looooooong ride to clear your head

 

[Guest]

Cocain is a helleva drug.... They have groups to help you with them....

Groups?... Cartels? ya they can help you get all you need

No seriously, did I miss something? You guys are a little brutal here. Why? Not sure I want to know.

This: http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/index.php/topic,7845.0.html would be the thread that got his panties in a wad, assuming he wasn't born with them already that way.

BTW, the cobra auto tune does not "save" any information for the case in which you remove it. If you remove it, you just have the standard EFI programming.

Thanks for linking the thread. Not sure I want to go back to see when where and how feathers got ruffled though.
The COBRA Auto tuner does not run piggyback with any other unit. Is that correct?
As for my understanding of the saving of mapping to the auto tuner with the PC-V, it is optional, whether you remove it or not?. You save the map to the piggy backed unit,(PCV), to run your bike in conjunction with the ECU and to your computer for future reference. If you don't save the map to the auto tuner and remove it from the bike then it can be used to map another bike or do a different mapping in the future to your bike. Is this correct? Or am I getting that confused with another unit?

No idea how the PCV operates, but in order to be able to remove the auto tune portion, it would have to piggy back on something else if the bike is to keep the information.

The Cobra unit is supposed to continuously update its output based upon the conditions it sees. Since it doesn't save a map, it does this every time you ride the bike. I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but the term "auto tune" suggests that the variables - which would include the differences in engine parameters, etc - involved would be used to tune a bike based upon what the tuner saw on its inputs. If the data on the inputs changes, so does the output, especially in a closed loop system.

In the thread linked to, he suggested foregoing a tuner at all and just having it dyno'd. When asked how, without a tuner, one would save the map, he choked and has slowly become unhinged to the point that this thread resulted. Even after the subject had been dropped.

IMO, the moving banner at the end of his post just shows what a sad, strange little man he is.

 

[mikoloe]

No Sir you didnt miss anything Toby, I just have to slow some things down for some people more than others. And not I am not mad or on drugs. I see that they like to dish it out, I know they can take it. It's all good. I dont know why some of these guys are like this but oh well, not my problem.

Obama Talk: When you drop your bike off at the shop and walk across the street to a bar and have some beers while they are working on it. At the time, it was just a subject over conversation during my down time. I like my beer. HA

BILLYD66 you always miss the point. I am not a Democrat or Republican. I can give 2 ****s about whom is in office or the Economy. Worrying or making excuses about the Econony is for Suckers. And just so you know OBAMA is along the lines of Carter not Clinton...

This info I put up is for those who are considering the PCV that is all. I am sure that they will find this info very helpful. This is just my "2 cents" worth like wyntress says.

 

[toby]

Cocain is a helleva drug.... They have groups to help you with them....

Groups?... Cartels? ya they can help you get all you need

No seriously, did I miss something? You guys are a little brutal here. Why? Not sure I want to know.

This: http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/index.php/topic,7845.0.html would be the thread that got his panties in a wad, assuming he wasn't born with them already that way.

BTW, the cobra auto tune does not "save" any information for the case in which you remove it. If you remove it, you just have the standard EFI programming.

Thanks for linking the thread. Not sure I want to go back to see when where and how feathers got ruffled though.
The COBRA Auto tuner does not run piggyback with any other unit. Is that correct?
As for my understanding of the saving of mapping to the auto tuner with the PC-V, it is optional, whether you remove it or not?. You save the map to the piggy backed unit,(PCV), to run your bike in conjunction with the ECU and to your computer for future reference. If you don't save the map to the auto tuner and remove it from the bike then it can be used to map another bike or do a different mapping in the future to your bike. Is this correct? Or am I getting that confused with another unit?

No idea how the PCV operates, but in order to be able to remove the auto tune portion, it would have to piggy back on something else if the bike is to keep the information.

The Cobra unit is supposed to continuously update its output based upon the conditions it sees. Since it doesn't save a map, it does this every time you ride the bike. I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but the term "auto tune" suggests that the variables - which would include the differences in engine parameters, etc - involved would be used to tune a bike based upon what the tuner saw on its inputs. If the data on the inputs changes, so does the output, especially in a closed loop system.

In the thread linked to, he suggested foregoing a tuner at all and just having it dyno'd. When asked how, without a tuner, one would save the map, he choked and has slowly become unhinged to the point that this thread resulted. Even after the subject had been dropped.

IMO, the moving banner at the end of his post just shows what a sad, strange little man he is.

I may have missed if he suggested taking the stock ECU to have it tested/dynoed. If there was a problem with that, I'm pretty sure its a sealed unit that has a set parameter and can not be dissembled, re chiped or re programed. They would have to replace it. But what he may have been referring to is that the PC-V can be installed without purchasing the auto tuner and have a shop put it on the dyno and have it mapped. I believe it works in piggyback with the ECU and 02 in a closed loop configuration. It just ads to more brain capacity to the ECU and fools it into thinking its getting the right readings and in reality the PCV is making the extended adjustments necessary.
Now again I'm now expert on these units. This is just my understanding on the subject from my resent readings and will appreciate any correction in my understanding.

 

[toby]

No Sir you didnt miss anything Toby, I just have to slow some things down for some people more than others. And not I am not mad or on drugs. I see that they like to dish it out, I know they can take it. It's all good. I dont know why some of these guys are like this but oh well, not my problem.

Obama Talk: When you drop your bike off at the shop and walk across the street to a bar and have some beers while they are working on it. At the time, it was just a subject over conversation during my down time. I like my beer. HA

BILLYD66 you always miss the point. I am not a Democrat or Republican. I can give 2 ****s about whom is in office or the Economy. Worrying or making excuses about the Econony is for Suckers. And just so you know OBAMA is along the lines of Carter not Clinton...

This info I put up is for those who are considering the PCV that is all. I am sure that they will find this info very helpful. This is just my "2 cents" worth like wyntress says.

mikoloe,
Understood .

Obama Talk: When you drop your bike off at the shop and walk across the street to a bar and have some beers while they are working on it. At the time, it was just a subject over conversation during my down time. I like my beer. HA

Obama talk, NOTED HEHE

Bringing up politics in a discussion of technology always causes disagreement and misinterpretation. There's nothing technical about politics lol.

 

[Guest]

Cocain is a helleva drug.... They have groups to help you with them....

Groups?... Cartels? ya they can help you get all you need

No seriously, did I miss something? You guys are a little brutal here. Why? Not sure I want to know.

This: http://www.yamahastarstryker.com/index.php/topic,7845.0.html would be the thread that got his panties in a wad, assuming he wasn't born with them already that way.

BTW, the cobra auto tune does not "save" any information for the case in which you remove it. If you remove it, you just have the standard EFI programming.

Thanks for linking the thread. Not sure I want to go back to see when where and how feathers got ruffled though.
The COBRA Auto tuner does not run piggyback with any other unit. Is that correct?
As for my understanding of the saving of mapping to the auto tuner with the PC-V, it is optional, whether you remove it or not?. You save the map to the piggy backed unit,(PCV), to run your bike in conjunction with the ECU and to your computer for future reference. If you don't save the map to the auto tuner and remove it from the bike then it can be used to map another bike or do a different mapping in the future to your bike. Is this correct? Or am I getting that confused with another unit?

No idea how the PCV operates, but in order to be able to remove the auto tune portion, it would have to piggy back on something else if the bike is to keep the information.

The Cobra unit is supposed to continuously update its output based upon the conditions it sees. Since it doesn't save a map, it does this every time you ride the bike. I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but the term "auto tune" suggests that the variables - which would include the differences in engine parameters, etc - involved would be used to tune a bike based upon what the tuner saw on its inputs. If the data on the inputs changes, so does the output, especially in a closed loop system.

In the thread linked to, he suggested foregoing a tuner at all and just having it dyno'd. When asked how, without a tuner, one would save the map, he choked and has slowly become unhinged to the point that this thread resulted. Even after the subject had been dropped.

IMO, the moving banner at the end of his post just shows what a sad, strange little man he is.

I may have missed if he suggested taking the stock ECU to have it tested/dynoed. If there was a problem with that, I'm pretty sure its a sealed unit that has a set parameter and can not be dissembled, re chiped or re programed. They would have to replace it. But what he may have been referring to is that the PC-V can be installed without purchasing the auto tuner and have a shop put it on the dyno and have it mapped. I believe it works in piggyback with the ECU and 02 in a closed loop configuration. It just ads to more brain capacity to the ECU and fools it into thinking its getting the right readings and in reality the PCV is making the extended adjustments necessary.
Now again I'm now expert on these units. This is just my understanding on the subject from my resent readings and will appreciate any correction in my understanding.

He would be the only one that knows what he was thinking. Several people asked him to elaborate without success.

 

[SmokenJoe]

WOW.................this much **** about one mans OPINION.
Just my honest OPINION.

 

[zona]

Right! Just another interesting fact on this forum. Had to read it a few times to read behind the lines but good point MIK.

 

[zona]

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