PCS Lowering Connectors

We typically do our best not to inteject on forums, but in this case we have had several calls about Low and Means comment. Using lowering dog bones will not increase your chances of the rear wheel hitting the rear fender any more than any other type of lowering assembly. As with any modification you should always know, inspect and understand the limitations of the bike with regards to the modification you are installing.

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Pacific said:

We typically do our best not to inteject on forums, but in this case we have had several calls about Low and Means comment. Using lowering dog bones will not increase your chances of the rear wheel hitting the rear fender any more than any other type of lowering assembly. As with any modification you should always know, inspect and understand the limitations of the bike with regards to the modification you are installing.

As a fellow business we would appreciate Low and Mean not making derogatory commnets about our products, or the products of other manufacturers.

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Thank you and we wish Low and Mean the best with his products and business,

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With all do respect, I was not directing my comment straight at PCS, this comment was for all aftermarket dog bones for the Star Stryker. Low and Mean has completely torn down our Stryker and worked out the geometry to come to the conclusion with lowering the Star Stryker. The done bones are a great cost effective solution with the stock tire, but you will have issues with the 240 tire.
Here's what happens, the done bones do not reduce travel. Dog bones shift the travel more into the motorcycle. Which on the Stryker with the 210 tire at 40 psi and the shock bottomed out (10.25") the done bones can be 1/2 longer before the tire hits the frame under the rear fender.
We design a solid strut at 10.25" and tested all of these lowering combinations with the stock tire, the 240 tire on stock rim and 240 on the 8.5 wheel. This is solid info you can take to the bank.
The Stock shock is 12" from eye to eye. Bottomed out is 10.25", with stock done bones there's 1.75" of clearance. Install a 1/2" longer done bone and the 210 tire with 40psi will be 2mm from hitting the the frame under the rear fender. Now install the 240 tire on the stock wheel and the tire is 1.25" taller.
Your not going to feel bottoming out at low speeds this is going to happen at high speeds and hopefully the tire doesn't lock into the frame under the fender.

Again we are not directly smashing PCS and their product. We are simply forwarding this info that is a fact and everyone should know their options. And yes we do make a product that we feel is the solution with the 240 tire, it is more expensive, it is much more difficult to change, but the end result adds up and is proven facts. Here's a link to our Star Stryker lowered Spring
http://www.lowandmean.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypagelm.tpl&product_id=163&category_id=106&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=60

Sorry for hi jacking the thread, but we are just responding to PCS comment and want you guys to have the facts. Again this is not a bash on them. I have heard nothing but good things about their company. We are simply stating facts that we have tested. It would be un-ethical for us not to present a possible danger to our customer base.

No bad blood, not mad, totally respect there response, we are just here to contribute to the forum in a positive way to help all of you build your Strykers to your own style. Please anyone is welcome to contact us anytime to discuss their concerns.

Hope you all understand.
LM

Bozzly said:

L&M, When you did your testing, did you take into account making changes to the stiffness of the OEM Shock & Spring or was this only based on the original factory setting in the middle? If i read your statement correctly it sounds like the issue is if the shock compresses the full length of 10.25 then a 240 tire will hit the frame under the fender, but lets say a person weighs only 175 lbs and stiffens the stock shock & spring, I am thinking it would take jumping the grand canyon like evil knevil to compress that shock all the way to the 10.25 travel distance. Although, I dont know that for fact, I could be way off base here. Thanks

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Your exactly right, most of us will never bottom the shock out at 10.25", but everyone is different in size and who or what they carry on the back of the motorcycle. I can not confirm at what point in the shock travel the 240 tire on the stock rim (with the circumference of 6'10- 1/4") will touch the frame. I do know with the stock dog bones you will be ok, complete bottom out you'll have 1/2" (This is measure not in the center of the tire but 3" from center which is the lowest point of the frame. But now lower the bike 2.25" and subtract that from wheel travel and I'm guessing you'll hit with little effort over 60mph. This I can not confirm, but doing the math it would be my best guess.
Please again, I have no intentions to take sales away from PCS, my sincere intentions is to help you guys whether you purchase from us or not. This is the info we have on hand.
One more thing, there's no clearance issue with the 240 tire on the stock rim as far as width, it when you install the 240 on a 8.5 rim that you will need to notch out the lower belt guard, but the cut is easy and everything else clears fine.
LM