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I ordered a 240 Michelin Commander II and my local Yamaha dealer cannot get it mounted on my stock rim saying the bead is to strong/hard to get on our 7.5” rim. Said they even took it to tire dealer and still couldn’t. I’m aghast at this since so many of you now have this tire in use. They suggested a Metzler ME 880. What do you all think?
 

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I ordered a 240 Michelin Commander II and my local Yamaha dealer cannot get it mounted on my stock rim saying the bead is to strong/hard to get on our 7.5” rim. Said they even took it to tire dealer and still couldn’t. I’m aghast at this since so many of you now have this tire in use. They suggested a Metzler ME 880. What do you all think?
I suggest you take your bike to a real motorcycle mechanic shop... or send the tire back as defective. Toby suggests that there is something wrong with the tire or he ordered you the wrong tire. We order our tires ourselves, we buy our michelins from revzilla. Order the tire yourself, save a crap load of money (you will pay up to $70.00 less) and get free shipping. We paid 207$ shipped for Toby's 240 C II and they are still at that price on revzilla.
Our bike mechanic has never had an issue getting any 240 onto toby's bike. He doesn't like the low profile tires in general and grumbles every time we pull in, but the tire is mounted and balanced without issue on the stock rim and Toby just wore it out at a little over 5k miles LOL
 

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If I remember correctly the guy that put my 2nd 210 on had a hard time with the low profile tire. Even commenting on it. The next tire was a ME 880 240 I had put on in San Diego and there was no mention of it being a problem. The 4th tire, E3 240, was put on by the same guy that put the 2nd 210 on and he didn't mention having any more of a problem with that than the 210. The 5th tire was/is the Michelin C II 240 which I had put on in Eureka and again no mention of a problem.
My thoughts are these guys are incompetent or the tire itself might be defective in rim diameter or sidewall in some way. In that case you don't want it on your bike anyway. Or just the wrong tire which is highly unlikely.
I would be questioning the competences of those mechanics, asking if they ever changed that type of tire before. This is not a common sized tire and rime width. The diameter however is common.
 

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I ordered a 240 Michelin Commander II and my local Yamaha dealer cannot get it mounted on my stock rim saying the bead is to strong/hard to get on our 7.5” rim. Said they even took it to tire dealer and still couldn’t. I’m aghast at this since so many of you now have this tire in use. They suggested a Metzler ME 880. What do you all think?

I think you need to find a Mexican tire shop! Don't be fooled, I said Mexican not Ecuadorian, Honduran or El Salvadorean. There is a difference Leeroy.
 
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The low profile tires will be much stiffer at the bead than a higher profile tire (due to having much less sidewall), but anyone with a tire machine and some experience should be able to mount it. That said, Avon states that it takes at least an 8" width to mount its tire. This is, of course, just its recommendation.

Find a better tire guy.
 

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I think you need to find a Mexican tire shop! Don't be fooled, I said Mexican not Ecuadorian, Honduran or El Salvadorean. There is a difference Leeroy.
Mexicans are the tire guys I'll tell you lol. They can jack ur car up put it on blocks and have all four rims off and a bunch of other parts in less time than it takes a NSCAR pit crew to gas up and change tires in a race.
 

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My Dealer only had a problem once. Owner's Son that was changing it did not get his finger out of the way in time and got a nice little cut.
 

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Regarding the parts dept: I’ve had good luck with them, one person in particular. He matched the Revzilla price for the Michelin and will honor that same price for the Metz.
Also, cost for mounting on the bike is 60 and an independent shop near by wanted 100. My gut tells me there is something amidst in the shop and the parts guy somewhat alluded to that also. I was told the shop has mounted, with difficulty, the Dunlop 240 before. There problem with the Michelin, I was told this evening, is they could get the bead onto to the rim but could not, under high pressure and numerous attempts, get it to seal to the lip of the rim. Currently I have my ride back, a Metz coming in Thurs or Fri, and I need to make a decision. Originally I leaned toward the Metz and then leaned toward the Michelin, all based on Toby’s experience and analysis. Thanks Toby. I’d be happy with the Metz but I’m p----d at their possible incompetence.
 

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Regarding the parts dept: I’ve had good luck with them, one person in particular. He matched the Revzilla price for the Michelin and will honor that same price for the Metz.
Also, cost for mounting on the bike is 60 and an independent shop near by wanted 100. My gut tells me there is something amidst in the shop and the parts guy somewhat alluded to that also. I was told the shop has mounted, with difficulty, the Dunlop 240 before. There problem with the Michelin, I was told this evening, is they could get the bead onto to the rim but could not, under high pressure and numerous attempts, get it to seal to the lip of the rim. Currently I have my ride back, a Metz coming in Thurs or Fri, and I need to make a decision. Originally I leaned toward the Metz and then leaned toward the Michelin, all based on Toby’s experience and analysis. Thanks Toby. I’d be happy with the Metz but I’m p----d at their possible incompetence.
Sounds like a defective tire. They should send it back and order another one. There is no reason why it shouldn't seal.
 

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Mexicans are the tire guys I'll tell you lol. They can jack ur car up put it on blocks and have all four rims off and a bunch of other parts in less time than it takes a NSCAR pit crew to gas up and change tires in a race.

They don't mess around.....They wont scratch your ride either like the other guys!
 

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Q; when you guys asked your shop to install the 240 did any of them say they wouldn’t recommend putting an over-sized tire on the rim? Just curious because that’s what I was told by my shop. Obviously it can be done though.

As I mentioned in another thread my stock tires are chewed up and I’m ready for a new set, still undecided though whether to go with the 240 + matching front or stick with the stock sizes. As Toby mentioned it would be nice to have a chance to test ride a Stryker that has the 240 on. Anybody know of a Stryker/240 guy in the San Diego area? I kind of lost track after we lost that “pin-the-map” feature.
 

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Q; when you guys asked your shop to install the 240 did any of them say they wouldn’t recommend putting an over-sized tire on the rim? Just curious because that’s what I was told by my shop. Obviously it can be done though.

As I mentioned in another thread my stock tires are chewed up and I’m ready for a new set, still undecided though whether to go with the 240 + matching front or stick with the stock sizes. As Toby mentioned it would be nice to have a chance to test ride a Stryker that has the 240 on. Anybody know of a Stryker/240 guy in the San Diego area? I kind of lost track after we lost that “pin-the-map” feature.
We went to Lee's Cycle Service on Aero Dr when we were down there, and they put the metzler 240 on toby's bike. leescycle.com is their website.
They were great. Bike was in and out and tires installed without issue, and their prices were good as well. Just make sure you have them check belt tension and tell them what the spec is for this type of bike. They normally work on bike's like Johnny's... They put toby's belt back on at the same tension it was at when they took the wheel off, which was actually at the time too loose, but we didn't know it =) we have learned a bit since then ;)
 

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We went to Lee's Cycle Service on Aero Dr when we were down there, and they put the metzler 240 on toby's bike. leescycle.com is their website.
They were great. Bike was in and out and tires installed without issue, and their prices were good as well. Just make sure you have them check belt tension and tell them what the spec is for this type of bike. They normally work on bike's like Johnny's... They put toby's belt back on at the same tension it was at when they took the wheel off, which was actually at the time too loose, but we didn't know it =) we have learned a bit since then ;)
Yeas, Lee's Cycle had no issues putting the 240 Metz on. In fact the mechanic was familiar with putting that sized tire on the Raiders. The only question he asked was after he test rode it he scraped his heels and ask if it was lowered and it was at the 2.25 at that time..
 

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My dealer said they can put on stock rim ,but made me sign a paper stating I knew it was an oversized tire on the rim .
The guy that put it on said it was a ***ch and wasn't looking forward to replacing :) , told him I ld try make it last till spring ;)
 

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Spray a little ether inside the tire and throw a lit match from a ways away into rim and that tire will certainly seal on lip. We did this on stubborn trucks tires when I worked for a carrier. Just a wee bit of ether though and stand way back.
 

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My dealer mounted Metzler ME880 240 and never mentioned anything about it being a problem to mount. Best decision ever, rides is so much better :) highly recommend this tire, better cornering, better comfort on the highway, and the speedo is now right on. It's a win not matter how I see it. They should be mounting these from factory.
 

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Spray a little ether inside the tire and throw a lit match from a ways away into rim and that tire will certainly seal on lip. We did this on stubborn trucks tires when I worked for a carrier. Just a wee bit of ether though and stand way back.
We have done that also :) learn real quick too much is a BAD thing ,now most shops now prefer the air tank with a 2" outlet it's much safer Lol
 
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