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I ordered the Yamaha saddlebag, I also ordered the saddlebag support bars hardware 27D-F84M3-T0-00 (since I do not have a backrest & do not intend to have one) after reading the Yamaha text, I do not know if I misunderstood, here is the Yamaha text:

(27D-F84M0-V0-00) Designed to help keep saddlebags off the fender and allow clearance for swing arm movement. Sold in pairs. Saddlebag Support Bar Hardware (27D-F84M3-T0-00) is required if installing on the bike without a Passenger Backrest, sold separately.

Is the 27D-F84M3-T0-00 I have ordered is hardware and I still need to order the brackets 27D-F84M0-V0-00?

If anybody who bought these items before can advise

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Yep, you need the brackets and the hardware. The hardware consists of four spacers and four fender bolts (longer than the original or standard bolts).
 

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We have found that the yamaha saddle bags work ok but I am not really happy with the way they are engineered for the price they cost. We are in the process of trying to find a universal hard mounting kit to mount the bags right to the bike. As throw overs they leave a little to be desired in that there is no way to really secure them to the saddle bag support brackets. the yoke feels cheap, and we will just have to see how well it holds up until we find a way to bolt them on.
 

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When I had my saddleman throwover bags (they were hard backed) I just put a couple of holes in the backside and ran a velcro tie through it and around the bracket.
Then after a while, I cut away the yoke, put a couple of holes up top of the bags to line up with the fender stay bolts, got some 1 1/2 inch washers for both side to give it some support, and bolted them right to the bike (still using the brackets). It worked wonderfully :)...and it really wasn't that much of a pain to take off or put on.
 

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I had the Cobra brackets also. I would still get the 1 1/2" washers for both sides. It gives better support to the bag, and you don't have to be afraid the bolt will punch through the bag into the recess on the bracket. I thought $80 was pretty steep for 2 pieces of bent metal.

...and just as a thought. How hard would it be to just bend some steel rod, weld a couple of 1/2" thick spacers on the end and make brackets instead of paying $80 - $100 bucks. So what if they're not chromed, can't see them anyhow??? I was going to try that with my Raider, but I picked up a set of jumbo bags w/ghost brackets already attached for $150 (couldn't pass that up for that price)
 

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Anybody know if instead of buying some expensive brand name brackets, I could just go with some cheap universal brackets like these on my 2011 Stryker: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CHT3PIG...lid=2Q4OXMQWJLRFW&coliid=I1OYVZRZ9LVX4X&psc=1

I don't have saddlebags yet, but I'll probably buy some semi-rigid ones, and both them on directly like others seem to be doing.
Maybe. Been a long time since I put on my backrest but I seem to remember that the 2 spacers are different lengths.
If the universal brackets spacers are shorter than either than you probably just need to find the right spacers and go from there. Otherwise 1 or possibly both would need to be ground down to fit which depending on your situation might be a small or big hassle.
The custom ones are expensive for what they are but factoring in time and the like might still make them a good possibility.
What about a local machine shop?
 

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I can't remember the part numbers, but the brackets came with hardware I didn't use, and the kit for "no backrest" had everything needed. I find they a supported quite well for my needs. I have the soft Yamaha star bags. I have no back seat so the middle is not tied down, but no problem on the highway. And so easy to sling off and on (without the back seat).
 

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Anybody know if instead of buying some expensive brand name brackets, I could just go with some cheap universal brackets like these on my 2011 Stryker: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CHT3PIG...lid=2Q4OXMQWJLRFW&coliid=I1OYVZRZ9LVX4X&psc=1

I don't have saddlebags yet, but I'll probably buy some semi-rigid ones, and both them on directly like others seem to be doing.
We had two sets of those when my wife still had her Stryker. One of them broke at the weld.

We used these for a while. We bent them at the height to keep them off the stock pipes. You can also cut them and bolt on a cross bar or plate

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-M...Parts_Accessories&hash=item27ef750ff2&vxp=mtr
 

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I believe what makes them "universal" is that the two joints "swing" or swivel giving the possibility of getting the right width to bolt into the fender. The look to come with different size bolts for your application.

Hope that helps and not confuse further.

Fwiw I see those in person at cycle gear store and they looked ok for the $$ but I got the mc enterprises support for like $20 more and have been very happy with them.


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Thanks, Toby. I'm not sure if I understand how those brackets on ebay work. The item description wasn't much help either. Perhaps you could explain how they're used?
The bent part of the brackets with a single hole bolts to the fender. You use two on each side of the bike. The bend goes outward and down. The multiple holes extending downward are where you bolt on hard bags. Depending on how deep the bags are determines how many holes to use. If the bags aren't deep, as in the case with stock pipes, you either cut it off, or bend the bracket so it supports the bottom of the bag. I bent mine as that was the reason for getting them to keep the bag from melting on the stock pipes.
They are universal because each bracket bolts on independent of the other so you can angle each one to best support any style of bag. You can add add cross bars or a plate that matches the shape of soft bags for total support if you want.. Also they can go behind back bar brackets so they don't sick out as far as the OEM or any other type that is limited to bolting on the outside.
 

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I wanted to ask this for a while but kept forgetting. Not to hijack this thread but how do you attach the bags to the brackets? I drilled 2 holes in each bag and used zip ties to attach them to the bag supports, but I's like to find a more permanent solution. I was thinking about some little metal piece that can wrap around the support bar and has a hole for a screw that goes through the back of the bag.

So basically the same thing as zip-tie but stronger and made of metal.

I looked in home depot but cannot find any hardware that would work for it.
 

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The bent part of the brackets with a single hole bolts to the fender. You use two on each side of the bike. The bend goes outward and down. The multiple holes extending downward are where you bolt on hard bags. Depending on how deep the bags are determines how many holes to use. If the bags aren't deep, as in the case with stock pipes, you either cut it off, or bend the bracket so it supports the bottom of the bag. I bent mine as that was the reason for getting them to keep the bag from melting on the stock pipes.
They are universal because each bracket bolts on independent of the other so you can angle each one to best support any style of bag. You can add add cross bars or a plate that matches the shape of soft bags for total support if you want.. Also they can go behind back bar brackets so they don't sick out as far as the OEM or any other type that is limited to bolting on the outside.
Got it now. Thanks, brother man.
 
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